Animoos

[Poisonedv]

With my recent ridiculous hate fueled insomniatic rant against anime fanboys, I thought it was high time to start a thread about anime.

Some of my favorites are the old ones like Astroboy and Lupin III, but I also enjoy ones such as (typical anime elitist selections follow): Elfen Lied, Ergo Proxy, stuff like that. I watch Gurren Lagann and Haruhi too, but those aren't that great.
How about all of you?

[Kaatridge]

With my recent ridiculous hate fueled insomniatic rant against anime fanboys, I thought it was high time to start a thread about anime.

Some of my favorites are the old ones like Astroboy and Lupin III, but I also enjoy ones such as (typical anime elitist selections follow): Elfen Lied, Ergo Proxy, stuff like that. I watch Gurren Lagann and Haruhi too, but those aren't that great.
How about all of you?

I don't watch anime as much as I used to, but I used to watch Haruhi, Saiyuki and a little bit of Getbackers.

[etnlIcarus]

Mysterious Cities of Gold, man, Mysterious Cities of Gold. It's got everything: the 19th century; funny clothes; child voice actors; Spanish people; flying fish; morally dubious characters and adventuring on the high seas and across South America.

I rate the DVD transfer (and subsequent rip) as one indecipherable numeral out of a second indecipherable numeral.

[Farvana]

I enjoyed Haruhi quite a bit, once I stopped listening to the fanboys who wouldn't shut the fuck up and got around to actually watching it. I keep looking for proof that Kyon is actually the one with the powah.

Elfen Lied's story was great, but the art bugged the everliving shit out of me. Strangely, Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni's art didn't and it's rather similar. Story is rather mediocre, though.

I dunno. My tastes are kind of crap, but I can't stand the standard fighto shit either. EXAMPLE: I still enjoy Full Metal Panic more than I should, and recommend Black Lagoon to people unfamiliar with anime.

[Aahmyface2]

I like Hellsing, its very good. Smooth animation and great ideas, executed wonderfully.

[Farvana]

Hellsing is an aborted crocodile of a show.

Toothy, bloody, but malformed and undeveloped.

Good music, though.

[etnlIcarus]

Elfen Lied's story was great, but the art bugged the everliving shit out of me. I felt the same thing about Paranoia Agent (not that the story was ever that great). Why the hell would you try to make your stuff look more like a Disney production?

[Farvana]

$$$, perhaps? 15 years ago Disney was associated with nothing but quality, and I doubt the boatload of straight-to-video sequels were noticed by much of the population overseas.


Oh, fyi, I idolize FLCL.

[Kaatridge]

Oh, fyi, I idolize FLCL.

Jesus, how could I forget about FLCL? FLCL was fricking awesome!

[Aahmyface2]

Hellsing IS good!

[Poisonedv]

Hellsing is ok. FLCL is great too. Also disney used to produce wonderfully animated movies, and still do occasionally.

[etnlIcarus]

Disney makes me angry. Very, very angry. It might have something to do with the over-produced nature of most of Disney's efforts. It might have something to do with the old fairy tales or two or three plots they rehash every year with a different, even less inspired anthropomorphic animal. It might have something to do with the sappy love ballads they'd whore with the release of every new film or it could just be me channelling my rage into one of the more innocuous aspects of my childhood. Regardless, Hate you, Disney. Hate you.

[Kaatridge]

Disney makes me angry. Very, very angry. It might have something to do with the over-produced nature of most of Disney's efforts. It might have something to do with the old fairy tales or two or three plots they rehash every year with a different, even less inspired anthropomorphic animal. It might have something to do with the sappy love ballads they'd whore with the release of every new film or it could just be me channelling my rage into one of the more innocuous aspects of my childhood. Regardless, Hate you, Disney. Hate you.

Be glad they aren't making another Goofy movie.




That's a good title for it. 'Another Fucking Goofy Movie'.

[Poisonedv]

The Jungle Book. Mulan. Aristocats. Fantasia. Bambi. Alice in wonderland. Sleeping Beauty. Fantasia 2000. And hell, thats just the movies.

[etnlIcarus]

I do like Bambi, if only because it's commonly cited during therapy sessions. Good work, guys. You damaged a generation of pissy kids.

[Poisonedv]

Jesus christ on a cracker, I thought maybe someone would actually agree with me
"You are right, Disney revolutionized animation and created timeless classics, regardless of what age they are aiming for" not moronic failed attempts at humor.
By the way, it's hilarious and ironic when people who enjoy anime diss disney. Where do you think anime originated from?

[Patrick Alexander]

Disney made some really good films for a while there, but they didn't revolutionise animation -- Walt Disney (and everyone else) copied Winsor McCay's techniques, which he invented and developed single-handedly, and generously (or perhaps naïvely) shared with whoever was interested.

Of course Disney -- the man and the studio -- made advances over the decades, but it all ain't shit compared to what McCay accomplished in just a fraction of his lifetime. His output (comics, animation and more) was massive and brilliant and very, very important. Just a phenomenal, impossible guy. More of a god really.

Also: Bambi is a good book; not much in common with the movie of course. You cats ought to read it.

[etnlIcarus]

it's hilarious and ironic when people who enjoy anime diss disney Actually, it's neither, though the former is more a matter of opinion.
Where do you think anime originated from?The animation which preceded it. Mainly, from Disney. I'm not sure what point you hope to make by citing history, though. I may think cars are cool but I can quite comfortably say the horse and buggy sucked without contradiction*.

*I'm not suggesting anime is the car to Disney's horse-drawn-buggy. Most anime is abjectly shit, the two simply share a similar relationship.

not moronic failed attempts at humor 'tis a shame you don't reserve such criticisms for the tired, saccharine-sweet piffle being pumped out of Disney's (and to a lesser extent, Pixar's) studios, rather than taking cheap, vacuous pot-shots at people who disagree with you.

[Poisonedv]

I agree that most things put out today by disney and some of its companies is shit. Fantasia 2000 is recent and it's one of my favorite pieces and hey, it has Penn Jillette in it. Pixar was pretty good but all its recent stuff is shit. "Shrek 3"
Also, Robots ripped off scrapland. ITS A CONSPIRACY!

[etnlIcarus]

Robots was terrible. I really wish someone would make Robin Williams shut up. On similar themes, though, it looks like Wall-E may go a way towards redeeming Pixar. Ratatouille wasn't bad, either, it just played it a bit safe. Wall-E looks considerably more ambitious and less conventional.

[Farvana]

The manga is good.

It's the standard on over-the-top. "I think this might be a bit much..." "Does it have vampire nazis eating babies?" "Wha? NO! God no!" "You're fine."

[Patrick Alexander]

Pixar didn't do Shrek. Can't remember who did but it wasn't Pixar.

Can't listen to people complaining about the Shrek sequels. If you enjoyed the first one enough to watch the sequels, you deserve whatever you get.

[etnlIcarus]

Dreamworks, though I'm not sure he specifically suggested Pixar did Shrek.

[Aahmyface2]

Spongebob is one of my all time favourites, its funny, fun to watch, and best of all, its funny. Although it is aimed at the lower ages.

[Patrick Alexander]

The Spongebob movie is easily the best animated film of recent years. No-one seems to be taking any lessons from it, though. (Mind you I haven't been paying much attention.)

[Aahmyface2]

I wanna rock! ROCK!

[Poisonedv]

I love spongebob. I'm not trying to sound like some stupid teenager- but if you look closely, it is extremely chock full of innuendos. It makes ren and stimpy seem tame when you think about it. (ok, not really) Also, the ending was perfect. I loved where he said "you found out what you really wanted was inside you all along?" "no!" Yeah, that was cool. Also, I took my little sister to a shrek sequel: I was not allowed to take her to "Grindhouse"

[Kaatridge]

I love spongebob. I'm not trying to sound like some stupid teenager- but if you look closely, it is extremely chock full of innuendos. It makes ren and stimpy seem tame when you think about it. (ok, not really) Also, the ending was perfect. I loved where he said "you found out what you really wanted was inside you all along?" "no!" Yeah, that was cool. Also, I took my little sister to a shrek sequel: I was not allowed to take her to "Grindhouse"

"No, I just wanted to tell you your zipper was undone."



Ohh, I always liked Invader Zim. Invader Zim was awesome.

[Poisonedv]

"No, I just wanted to tell you your zipper was undone."



Ohh, I always liked Invader Zim. Invader Zim was awesome.

*holds up spork*

(PS IM IMPLYING THAT IT WAS RUINED BY FANGIRLS)

[etnlIcarus]

Zim kicked arse. "I taste ...delicious!", and, with much gravitas, "A room with a moose!", are some of the funniest lines ever uttered in a cartoon.

[DrAwesome]

Vasquez is a genius. I love that guy; too bad fans are so good at spoiling such things.

Why has no-one even MENTIONED Ghost in the Shell? From Masamune Shirow's manga to all 3 films and the series- they're all just so freakin' great.

[etnlIcarus]

I liked the film, though the recent series didn't really grab me. Haven't seen Innocence.

[DrAwesome]

Innocence follows the same style as Kazunori Itō's first film adaptation. It's nice and arty, cyberpunky and ever so confusing! It does trail from the manga quite a bit, but I guess that's what makes it so good.

Stand Alone Complex seems to be a hit or miss thing. I thought it was fantastic and really developed more on the manga, without straying too far from Shirow's GitS universe. But the intertextuality (to J.D.Salinger's Catcher in the Rye and The Laughing Man) confused things up a bit, which is probably why 2nd GIG is more popular.

There is a film set after the 2nd GIG, and it's one of the best films I've ever seen. I'm not obsessive, I swear.

[etnlIcarus]

I watched two seasons of the series (I assume that's all they made) and it sort of felt like Alias-'lite'. I think the producers and directors just assumed their target audience was already familiar with GitS and they didn't bother to present the GitS universe in any sort of unfamiliar light which, when coupled with the more subtle modern visual style, just didn't aim to grab the viewer by the balls as it should have.

Oddly enough, while I remember the second series loosened up a bit and was slightly more stylistic, I can't actually recall the underlying plot arc. I remember the end of the first series and the beginning of the second and being mightily disappointed that they didn't follow on with the, "agents on the run", story they alluded to at the end of the laughing man case but I can't remember what second gig was about.

[DrAwesome]

Well I haven't seen Alias to make the comparison.

I actually saw Itō's film first, then the series. The series was confusing, and felt a little unexplained, but it still enticed me. So I watched it again, did a whole heap of research on it and then watched the other films and read the manga. So I'd have to agree that SAC was aimed at an audience already familiar with GitS.

The second series, funnily enough, focused more on the original definition of the Stand Alone Complex; which is the result of becoming dependant on technology.

The 2nd GIG explores the back story to two of the characters (Saitou and Pazu) as well, and has more focus on the AI development of the Tachikoma. The main plot arch was a lot more action based as well- what with the refugee liberation and charasmatic war heroes.

There are films (2 and a half hours) for both series, focusing on those plot archs. The Laughing Man and The Particular Eleven, respectively. In case you're interested in giving GitS another go. :sleaze:

[etnlIcarus]

That's right, the phantom essay/electronic virus and the impending refugee revolution.

Curious, though. What did you find confusing about the series? I found the only times I didn't know what was going on was when they were going through the motions of some rather drawn-out plot development. Generally, though, the fact that they over-elaborated was my central criticism.

[Farvana]

Out of boredom and morbid curiousity I've decided to see if my old hatred for mecha shows (FMP excepted) still applies, so I've been downloading Macross F.

Terrible music (almost every anime has this flaw), shiny but also lazy animation, ignorance of Newton's Laws of Motion, celebrity-worship out the arse... Somehow, it's still enjoyable. I think it's because, deep inside, I still find fighter jets incredibly cool (even if they wouldn't fly like that in space aldhfa;ldskhfa;lkdhf). God knows the songs aren't keeping me watching.

[etnlIcarus]

I haven't seen Macross Saga for a long goddamn time. I think Robotech and Escaflowne are the only instances where mechas are excusable.

[Farvana]

I admit I haven't watched any Robotech, but Escaflowne was kind of retarded.

[etnlIcarus]

Escaflowne was kind of retarded.
Now I'm not sure whether to adore you for being a Faithless fan or despise you for dissing Escaflowne*.





*the series. The film was rather retarded.

[Farvana]

The main girl was nothing but annoying to me.

The villains were awesome, but that was the only good thing about the show.

[etnlIcarus]

Hitomi was pretty awesome. Especially since she was voiced by Maaya Sakamoto, one of the few J-pop stars with any real talent.

And if you watched it with the English dubs and don't know who Maaya Sakamoto is, it's your own damn fault.

[Poisonedv]

I'm uh... watching "Rockman.exe" animated series... please just kill me and get it over with right now. I started watching it as a joke but now I'm addicted... oh god

[DrAwesome]

Curious, though. What did you find confusing about the series? I found the only times I didn't know what was going on was when they were going through the motions of some rather drawn-out plot development. Generally, though, the fact that they over-elaborated was my central criticism.

Well at first I wasn't familiar with any of the intertextualities- so those particular episodes flew right over my head. Also, I often found the political content confusing because I'm not educated on the matter.

Terrible music (almost every anime has this flaw)

Ghost in the Shell begs to differ. ;)

[etnlIcarus]

Escaflowne (also handled by Yoko Kanno) begs to differ.

[DrAwesome]

I bet if I had actually seen Escaflowne, I would've picked up on that! Yoko Kanno is the shiz'.

[Farvana]

There's a reason I said "almost". Yoko Kanno's overrated, though.

[Ritz]

I unwaveringly maintain my position that Cowboy Bebop is the only good anime ever created.

Abenobashi was fun, though! Alien 9 was great too, albeit short.



EDIT: Decided to catch up on the rest of the discussion. Spongebob? I loathe Spongebob, with an irascible passion. The show's humor strikes me as completely tasteless, and while it does occasionally have it's moments, any and all wit I encountered during my time with it was constantly undermined by the extreme aversiveness of the titular character. From his insipid design to his obnoxious personality, Spongebob was specifically engineered to be as annoying as humanly possible, and everyone just laps that shit right up.

No, seriously. I hate Spongebob, and I hate the fact that everyone loves Spongebob. Every time I see some teenage douche walking around with a "Gangstabob" (http://www.xoospace.com/myspace/network/30025.jpg) t-shirt, I swear, I just want to don a pair of shades, walk right up to him, perform a perfect split and deliver several rapid and exceptionally well-placed blows right to his dick, Johnny Cage style. The only reason I haven't yet is because I'm not yet limber enough for the task (I can already bust a nut real good).

I just don't see the show's appeal, especially in comparison to most all of Nickelodean's yesteryear greats, like, say, Rocko's Modern Life and Angry Beavers (Two of my personal favorites). Also, Courage the Cowardly Dog was the last truly great cartoon ever created, and that ended over 6 years ago. The animation industry is in a sordid state, and it's never, ever going to get any better.

[chuanoplast]

I really enjoyed Baccano because it was a fun-filled, action-packed romp. Otherwise, I prefer reading to watching things on screens because I always fall asleep halfway through.

[etnlIcarus]

I just don't see the show's appeal, especially in comparison to most all of Nickelodean's yesteryear greats, like, say, Rocko's Modern Life and Angry Beavers (Two of my personal favorites). Also, Courage the Cowardly Dog was the last truly great cartoon ever created, and that ended over 6 years ago. The animation industry is in a sordid state, and it's never, ever going to get any better.

How could you omit Ren and Stimpy, the cartoon which spawned tasteless, intentionally retarded premises in cartoons? It's sure as hell more noteworthy than The Angry Beavers.

[Farvana]

I personally preferred Rocko and the Beavers to Ren & Stimpy as well.

I disagree about the Courage comment, though. Not only was that show not really great, Venture Brothers is both still happening and FAN-FUCKING-TASTIC (unless you're more into cartoons for the artwork).


And Cowboy Bebop, while good, isn't my cup of tea anymore.

[Ritz]

How could you omit Ren and Stimpy, the cartoon which spawned tasteless, intentionally retarded premises in cartoons? It's sure as hell more noteworthy than The Angry Beavers.
It certainly is- I only overlooked it because it actually got all the credit it deserved. Can you determine whether or not Spongebob was more popular? I can't!

Also, just kidding! I love Spongebob. (http://tinyurl.com/6hn626)

[etnlIcarus]

Nonsense, Ren and Stimpy can never get enough credit.

[chuanoplast]

I used to watch Rocko's Modern Life all the time. That's how I learned about Australia! I haven't watched any cartoon cartoons in a long time, but I thought the animation style of Ed Edd Eddy was pretty wacky.

[DrAwesome]

Also, just kidding! I love Spongebob. (http://tinyurl.com/6hn626)

Seconded.

[Poisonedv]

Ritz, all those you listed are awesome, along with ren and stimpy. I love courage too.



ALSO AHAHAHA SPENGEBAB SO HILARIOUS! LOLLLL! THATS SO FUNNNY POST SUM MORE LOL@222 lolwut!!!!!THIS IS OUR SECRET CLUB COOL HUH rules 4& 5 NEWFAG11

[Ritz]

I haven't watched any cartoon cartoons in a long time, but I thought the animation style of Ed Edd Eddy was pretty wacky.
Ed Edd n Eddy wasn't all that bad, really. It was worth watching, it just wasn't all that good for a laugh. But then, when spongebab is the sort of thing that amuses me, I suppose I'm of a decidedly niche audience.

[Poisonedv]

An audience that like shit thats been posted for years over a thousand times, maybe you would like the simpsons then?

[matte_k]

The new Appleseed anime is one of the finest examples of what you can do with this stuff i've seen in a loooong time. Unfortunately, somebody at Warner decided that because it made a lot of dollars for them, a sequel would be a good idea.

This is partly true, because it's done by the same people who made the first, with the added help of John Woo, and it looks fantastic, great story, BUT!

They skimped on the cost of the English voiceover, all the characters sound so cheap! What the fuck happened to the guy who played Briarieos in the first movie? He was perfect for the job! Now he's this cheesy American Power Ranger wannabe? Oh Sweet Christ on a popsicle stick....

And the region 2 DVD has only 2 audio options: English or German. So, i'm going to listen to it in German, see if it's any better. Japanese would have been appropriate, though

[etnlIcarus]

The new Appleseed was pretty to look at and all but there wasn't much to it. Once you turn your brain off it's all good, though.

[Ritz]

An audience that like shit thats been posted for years over a thousand times, maybe you would like the simpsons then?
I dunno! Is The Simpsons capable of bringing Christian men to tears? Can it inseminate women through sheer force of will? Is it naughty? No, no, don't trouble yourself with a reply: I know in my heart of hearts that there will never be such a substitute.

Besides, spengebab isn't old, it has seniority.

EDIT: I just realized that spengebab is a 4chan meme. Shit. Shit. What am I going to do, guys?! I've gotta find a way to unpublish this entire discussion before Patrick and/or Dan lays down the law.

[Poisonedv]

Don't let the man get you down...
Also, what is that, an image rotator script in your signature? They all you to do that here? That's a giant vulnerability...

[Ritz]

Also, what is that, an image rotator script in your signature? They all you to do that here? That's a giant vulnerability...
I know, right? I mean, I could stick a porn image that totally breaks the size limits in there and set it to appear 0.001% of the time, and when some poor, righteous shmuck is eventually granted the honor of viewing such a thing and decides to report me to the admins, they'd be all like "You're off your rocker! I sat there and refreshed the page 50 goddamn times and I didn't see a thing. I'm going back to bed and if you trifle me with this tomfoolery again it's to the taffy pulling room with you." Man, wouldn't that be sweet?

Yes, my random image script grants me great power, but fortunately for you all, I am a benevolent god. Other than that, though, I don't see the harm (But I do see the sex appeal).

[etnlIcarus]

Other than that, though, I don't see the harm Unsecured browsers + PHP scripts which can contain more than just images = potential security risk visiting this site.

[Ritz]

Well, just you be thankful that I have no idea how to exploit such a thing, then!

You know, I'm probably not helping my case any. Look, please don't remove my sig. :(

[Poisonedv]

I know, right? I mean, I could stick a porn image that totally breaks the size limits in there and set it to appear 0.001% of the time, and when some poor, righteous shmuck is eventually granted the honor of viewing such a thing and decides to report me to the admins, they'd be all like "You're off your rocker! I sat there and refreshed the page 50 goddamn times and I didn't see a thing. I'm going back to bed and if you trifle me with this tomfoolery again it's to the taffy pulling room with you." Man, wouldn't that be sweet?

Yes, my random image script grants me great power, but fortunately for you all, I am a benevolent god. Other than that, though, I don't see the harm (But I do see the sex appeal).

Thank you for putting me in my place, I apparently know NOTHING about "network security" (what a bullshit term)

For instance, at one point Gaia had a vulnerability where you could use that on your profile. Now, I'm not saying I did this, but some deplorable types MAY have, and it easily extracted usernames and MD5 hashes.

I can't think of the method off the top of my head, but there is a way to serverside the entire thing, and have it as a solid JPEG or PNG or whatever with the rotator script doing dynamics in PERL or some shit.
PERL. Now theres a scripting language worth its shit.

[Poisonedv]

<?php
Header("Cache-Control: no-store, no-cache, must-revalidate, post-check=0, pre-check=0");
Header("Expires: Thu, 19 Nov 1981 08:52:00 GMT");
Header("Pragma: no-cache");
Header("Content-Type: image/gif");

srand((double)microtime()*1000000);
$randnum = rand(0,1);
if($randnum == 0)
{
readfile("IMGURLHERE");
}
else if($randnum == 1)
{
readfile("IMG URL HERE");
}
?>


If you have more images, then add 1 to the the number after "== " and add 1 to the last number at $randnum = rand(0,1); like so:
$randnum = rand(0,54);
if($randnum == 0)
{
readfile("IMG HERE");
}
else if($randnum == 1)
{
readfile("IMG HERE");
}
else if($randnum == 2)
{
readfile("IMG HERE");
}
else if($randnum == 3)
{
readfile("IMG HERE");
}
else if($randnum == 4)
Not sure where thats from or if I made it, as it's just in my code folder which has ancient stuff of mine, but it would probably be easy to add a configuration file to make it easier to add images.

[Farvana]

BACK TO THE MAIN TOPIC:

I'd forgotten how much I enjoy Ouran Host Club. I don't know half of the cliches it's parodying, but it's got a more character-driven sense of humor anyhow.

[DrAwesome]

BACK TO THE MAIN TOPIC:

I'd forgotten how much I enjoy Ouran Host Club. I don't know half of the cliches it's parodying, but it's got a more character-driven sense of humor anyhow.

Hahaha. Haha. Ha~
I might be going insane, but I could've sworn there was a live-drama film based on that manga. I accidentally saw it one weekend when I was in Japan... It was Japanese-drama-tastic.

[Ryuichi Naruhodo]

I'm watching Black Lagoon. It doesn't seem to have much "fanservice" so far, but the camera is always a little too conveniantly placed whenever the lead female is on screen. Other than that it's pretty good, I'll probabbly watch more of it.

[etnlIcarus]

I'm watching Black Lagoon. It doesn't seem to have much "fanservice" so far, but the camera is always a little too conveniantly placed whenever the lead female is on screen. Other than that it's pretty good, I'll probabbly watch more of it.
If you're into fan service, I suggest Daphne in the Brilliant Blue. Pretty brainless Charlie's Angels inspired affair but half the characters appear to wear futuristic maxipads in place of proper bikini bottoms or, heaven forbid, pants.

[Poisonedv]

Or, you know, you could just watch one of the 900 thousand hentais floating around on the web

Also Daphne in the Brilliant Blue appears to have its storyline based on global warming. Global warming? Now I know its a fantasy series


By the way, as far as hentai goes, "Cream Lemon" is actually pretty cool and I would watch it regardless of whether or not it was H.

[Farvana]

I'm watching Black Lagoon. It doesn't seem to have much "fanservice" so far, but the camera is always a little too conveniantly placed whenever the lead female is on screen. Other than that it's pretty good, I'll probabbly watch more of it.

The first season of Black Lagoon is the kind of show I'd use to introduce anime to someone, since us Americans can only get into something if explosions are involved somehow.

[etnlIcarus]

Also Daphne in the Brilliant Blue appears to have its storyline based on global warming. Global warming? Now I know its a fantasy series Sir, I take issue with your subtle baiting and will now discuss the merits of the science behind global warming at-length.

...

Nah, CBF.

[Poisonedv]

I wasn't doing any baiting. Global warming is just sensationalist dick. Which is also why I loved the set they did on Bullshit! where they got people to sign the petition against "Di hydrogen monoxide"

[etnlIcarus]

Ehh, not worth it.

[Poisonedv]

Oh, I love the old "I don't have any real arguments against it so I'll just pretend I'm too lazy"
a variation of the real life "I dont have any real arguments so I'll just say its not polite to debate"

[etnlIcarus]

No, I'm quite sincere when I say you're not worth it. Before you'd even expressed this view I'd already made that clear. I honestly CBFed playing games with you - especially when you volunteer no information and claim you're not baiting.

[Poisonedv]

No, I'm quite sincere when I say you're not worth it. Before you'd even expressed this view I'd already made that clear. I honestly CBFed playing games with you - especially when you volunteer no information and claim you're not baiting.

I am in the position of the claim that global warming "Does not exist" there for I do not have to prove anything until someone can provide proof to the contrary that it DOES exist. There is no "providing information" when there is nothing to provide information AGAINST my good sir

[etnlIcarus]

I am in the position of the claim that global warming "Does not exist" there for I do not have to prove anything until someone can provide proof to the contrary that it DOES exist. There is no "providing information" when there is nothing to provide information AGAINST my good sir

Dear god, it's like you're an even more insufferable version of Kafka. If you want to dispute the science; start a thread and state your criticisms clearly and concisely, using the correct terminology and sources where applicable.

Right now, it's just your vague accusation of bullshit versus the scientific community and I'm not going to wax redundant just so you can educate yourself in the finer points of nitpicking and autofellatio. If you've simply formed this opinion from a narrow selection of media reports, see previous statement: I don't care but if you've got any evidence regarding the central theories of climate change to present, I suggest you do so. I'm honestly curious.

[Poisonedv]

Jesus christ dude, just read the fucking wikipedia article
Dude, just let the real scientists here handle this. seriously.
Im working on a chemistry degree man. I'm pretty sure I know what im talking about.

[etnlIcarus]

Well by all means, feel free to talk about it. Obviously not in this thread, though.

[Poisonedv]

Trolling aside, it's pretty obvious if you get your head out of your ass. First of all, recent and prehistoric temperature scales have shown that temperatures cycle in and out, and in those cycles are also smaller cycles. Case in point, the global cooling stir a few decades ago. Another anomaly here, is that many animals and plant life emit various gases that could cause global warming, but you don't see the kind of things on those readouts, it's not a semi-steady rise. Third, temperatures are heating up on other planets too. Are people driving trucks on Mars? Not to mention that people always talk about how the how 'some' of the hottest records on earth were recorded several years ago. Now, if the global warming is on an exponential or steady rise, then how come more of these aren't popping up, it's actually getting COOLER and very cold winters are happening? Seriously, use your head. This isn't science, it's problem solving.
Al Gore is a cunt.

[Kaatridge]

Digressing to the THREAD TOPIC, has anyone heard of an F-Zero anime? My friend told me about it he other day, and I had no clue there was such a thing.

[etnlIcarus]

Digressing to the THREAD TOPIC, has anyone heard of an F-Zero anime? My friend told me about it he other day, and I had no clue there was such a thing.

Yeah it was the reason for the major stylistic shift of F-Zero: GP Legend on the GBA a couple of years ago. I don't think there have been any localisation efforts, though.

Edit: Also Poisondv, we can continue our discussion here (http://eegra.com/forum/showthread.php?p=5018#post5018).

[Ryuichi Naruhodo]

If you're into fan service, I suggest Daphne in the Brilliant Blue. Pretty brainless Charlie's Angels inspired affair but half the characters appear to wear futuristic maxipads in place of proper bikini bottoms or, heaven forbid, pants.

The thing that's wrong with fan service is that it's tricking you into watching porn when you weren't expecting it, and then not delivering with nudity and whatnot. Am I the only one that finds this strange?

Oh yeah, AND it's cartoon women.

Farvana I am Australian, not American! LOL who am I kidding there's no difference.

[etnlIcarus]

Do you mean erotic or suggestive? I can't say I've ever seen something pornographic that didn't have nudity.

As for cartoon women in general, I'm not a huge fan. Seems to me presenting these picture-perfect women with all those curves and flawless skin is only going to serve to make my expectations in life too unrealistic. I think I'd sooner relieve myself to decidedly mediocre faire, with all the freckles and disproportionality needed to prevent me from losing my appreciation for the realistic human form.

Farvana I am Australian, not American! LOL who am I kidding there's no difference. I find that offensive as an Australian and as an American.


...wait. Shit.

[Ryuichi Naruhodo]

Do you mean erotic or suggestive? I can't say I've ever seen something pornographic that didn't have nudity.
What I meant is it's like porn, but without the nudity. It's like stuck in porn purgatory, they tease that you're going to see something, AND YOU ALMOST DO, but no. Maybe that should be "porn hell".

As for cartoon women in general, I'm not a huge fan. Seems to me presenting these picture-perfect women with all those curves and flawless skin is only going to serve to make my expectations in life too unrealistic. I think I'd sooner relieve myself to decidedly mediocre faire, with all the freckles and disproportionality needed to prevent me from losing my appreciation for the realistic human form.
That, and they're drawings. >_>

[etnlIcarus]

What I meant is it's like porn, but without the nudity. It's like stuck in porn purgatory, they tease that you're going to see something, AND YOU ALMOST DO, but no. Maybe that should be "porn hell". Nah, you were closer with porn purgatory. Porn hell would be 2girls1cup or swap.avi.

That, and they're drawings. >_>
No reason that can't be erotic.

[Cluebot]

Here's some of my anime recommendations:

Monster (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=3750)

72 episodes. An epic crime thriller with a uniquely disturbing antagonist. The slow burning but powerful story spans many years, with some incredible reveals at its high points (including one at the end of the Czechoslovakia arc that blew my socks right off.)

Mushishi (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=5923)

26 eisodes. A strange and interesting take on Japanese folk mythology. The world is permeated by mushi (literally "bugs.") These primordial life forms have an existence as ethereal as ghosts, yet have real - and sometimes pernicious - effects.

The story follows Ginko - a "Mushi-shi." These practitioners travel the lands helping others overcome their mushi-related problems. The episodic stories are mostly self-contained and vary in quality, but the best of them are awesome.

Surprisingly, the live action version is okay.

[Poisonedv]

Whats that one anime movie about VAMPFIRES?!

[Farvana]

Hellsing? Blood+? Vampire Hunter D? Iono, they're all pretty mediocre.

A series that's completely surprised me is Utawarerumono (The One Being Sung). I watched the first episode when it was being subbed, somehow under the impression that it was based on an eroge visual novel (like Fate / Stay Night), and was not impressed. I've given it another chance, and I realize how completely fucking wrong I was: it's a japanese medieval fantasy epic (i.e., everyone's a furry, but no magic) that's got just a touch of myth mixed in. This is like crack to me, shoddy animation aside.

[Poisonedv]

No, its a movie, I'm sure.
i think it has x in the title.
also it was a while ago but i recall enjoying hellsing and blood+
gungrave was pretty cool

[Cluebot]

Amime movie with vampires? There's Blood - The Last Vampire (movie prequel to Blood+.) There were a couple of Vampire Hunter D movies too. Can't think of anything with "X" in the title...

There was a 1996 movie called X, which was a spin-off from Tokyo Babylon. I don't think it had much to do with vampires though.

[Farvana]

I take it back about Utawarerumono.

It was good until the fucking power armor shows up.

whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

[DrAwesome]

Here's some of my anime recommendations:

Monster (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=3750)

72 episodes. An epic crime thriller with a uniquely disturbing antagonist. The slow burning but powerful story spans many years, with some incredible reveals at its high points (including one at the end of the Czechoslovakia arc that blew my socks right off.)

I was really surprised that Monster was capable of pulling off 72 episodes. I mean, the idea is so simple, yet intriguing. It was a cliff-hanger right until the end, and I just couldn't stop watching! A definite recommendation from me!

[Poisonedv]

Is paranoia agent any good? I remember it airing on adult swim a while back and looked cool. If so, subs or dub?

[Rad]

I liked Paranoia agent a lot. It had and interesting plot and some really dark humour (one episode is about two guys and a 10 year-old girl who met in a chat-room that all want to kill themselves and follows them as they try to find Lil' Slugger). If you dig the animation you should also check out the movies done by the same studio (Tokyo Godfathers, Perfect Blue, and Paprika)

[etnlIcarus]

Is paranoia agent any good? I remember it airing on adult swim a while back and looked cool. If so, subs or dub?

I started watching it on the continued recommendation of a couple of forumers. Whenever I would enquire as to when it would start to become interesting, I was continually told 'within the next few episodes'. I got up to the last 3 eps and just didn't bother to watch them. I was so disinterested, I didn't even feel compelled to find any closure on the story. To that, the dickless visual style of the series grated me.

[Demaar]

It's a pretty odd series. Kinda lacks meaning until the very end. Reminds me kind of like Lain only possibly more strange. Though it's been years since I watched Lain so I could be remembering incorrectly.
I enjoyed watching it, but I wouldn't pay money for it.

[Farvana]

The idea of some kid in roller blades beating people in the face with a baseball bat was interesting to me, more so when that kid is killed while in prison and the attacks keep happening afterwards.

Also nothing is more strange than Lain.

[Fishy]

Sayonara Zetsubou Sensei (sp) , also called Goodbye Mr. Despair. About a suicidal teacher and his really messed up class. The Read or Die OVA series was amazing, and a second on Ouran High School Host Club.

[Farvana]

Sayonara Zetsubo Sensei's first season was good; after that it just got too wrapped up in it's own in-jokes and wasn't really funny.

[Fishy]

I haven't caught the second season yet. Although technically I didn't suggest it!!!
(Zoku Sayonara Zetsubuo Sensei)

Too bad, the first season was awesome, I'll probably still watch it though.

[Demaar]

OK, I guess I'll contribute without reading the entire thread (lol). Some anime series I've seen recently (like within the last couple of years) that I think are worth seeing:

Bokurano - psychological mecha anime (think Eva) but without any religious references. The character interaction is the point here. The cast is very flawed and I would say more human than in any other anime series I've seen. The story is cool too, if a bit depressing (IIRC it ends badly).

Claymore - balls out action anime with hot chicks that turn into half demon things. Characters are very shallow, the story is cliched and a bit of a joke, but chicks with big swords taking on huge hulking demons is pretty rad. Turn off your brain and it's very fun to watch.

Denno Coil - near future setting where the internet is kinda layered over everything in the real world. Main characters are a bunch of kids that get obsessed with some folk law about the mysterious deaths of some other kids caused by something on the internet. Kinda hard to explain without it sounding stupid. I liked it a lot though.

Gurren Lagann - another balls out action anime, this time with outlandish robots, boobs and manly men who shout battle cries in their manly voices and so on. Mecha designs are quite awesome.

Kaiji - about a bum who has no life and isn't really trying very hard to get one. Gets stiffed with a huge debt from a co-worker, and the debt is owed to the Yakuza. He ends up on a cruise where he can gamble away his debt in one night, but if he loses he's doomed to slave labour for a looong time. The whole point of this show is character interaction and seeing the nifty stuff Kaiji can do when he actually puts his mind to it. That's only the first half of the series too, it arguably gets better later on. If you've seen Akagi, it's along the same lines but more interesting IMO... though Kaiji doesn't have even a third of Akagi's balls.

Seirei no Moribito - appears to be your cliche anime set in an alternate world asia type land, but the story is fairly different and the character interaction is what you watch it for anyway.[/B]

Shakugan no Shana - yet another action anime, but this time the balls are left stoked away. I don't think it is, but it feels like one of those anime shows that are based on graphic novel things or whatever people call those dating sim games. Dunno why I like it, 'cause based on its premise along I'd normally have avoided it. Basically about a cute girl that fights demon things and the main (male) character gets wrapped up in it. There's other cute girls and there's fanservice blah blah blah. Really don't know why I enjoyed it, but I did. Hard to explain story without early spoilers.


That's all I can think of for now.

[Rad]

Does (Crayon) Shin-Chan count as an anime? That shit is hilarious.

[Farvana]

Kaiji is better or worse than Goldenboy?

Also watch Gurren Lagann subbed PLEASE the dubs are so bad

[chuanoplast]

I like Code Geass. Does this make me a terrible or a FABULOUS person question mark

[Zeuter]

I like Code Geass. Does this make me a terrible or a FABULOUS person question mark

Lol, anorexia.

[Demaar]

Kaiji is better or worse than Goldenboy?

Also watch Gurren Lagann subbed PLEASE the dubs are so badThey're pretty different shows in premise, from what I understand about Goldenboy. Kaiji is a pretty depressive show.

Only ever watched GL subbed, so I will take your word for it :)I like Code Geass. Does this make me a terrible or a FABULOUS person question markDunno, I've actively avoided watching the show for various reasons (starting with its art style).

[Farvana]

Only ever watched GL subbed, so I will take your word for it :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3E7B_wVexs

[Demaar]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, What happened to my Kamina! Not manly enough!

Dub is bearable beyond that though, if you're a dub watcher I mean.

[chuanoplast]

Dunno, I've actively avoided watching the show for various reasons (starting with its art style).

Everyone is SO GIRLY on that show.

[Farvana]

On Gurren Lagann?

Punching the shit out of robots = girly?

[chuanoplast]

Ummm oops I meant Code Geass. Guess I should quote the right thing.

[etnlIcarus]

Everyone is SO GIRLY on that show.

Then again; anime tough guys are usually so subtle and bearable.

[Reasonableman]

It may not be anime, but it's super Japanese and it's as close as I'll ever get to watching anime: I just got the first season of Ultraman on DVD and it is beyond excellent. I mean, there's giant rubbery monsters, bad dubbing, and blatant sexism! What more could a man want?

[Gina]

In full awareness of the utter disdain I may attract; Full Metal Panic; Fumoffu makes me laugh in ways that I cannot describe.

[Farvana]

I like ALL the FMP series.

Yes, even the one with the whore.

I think there might be something wrong with me.

[Demaar]

I've only watched a bit of the first series and all of Fumoffu. I enjoyed Fumoffu far too much. I think it's because seeing people in situations where their common sense is out of place is amusing to me.

[Rad]

I have the whole series of Astroboy (the new version). It's so kiddie but Astro is the coolest robot ever.

[Ritz]

Kaiji - about a bum who has no life and isn't really trying very hard to get one. Gets stiffed with a huge debt from a co-worker, and the debt is owed to the Yakuza. He ends up on a cruise where he can gamble away his debt in one night, but if he loses he's doomed to slave labour for a looong time. The whole point of this show is character interaction and seeing the nifty stuff Kaiji can do when he actually puts his mind to it. That's only the first half of the series too, it arguably gets better later on. If you've seen Akagi, it's along the same lines but more interesting IMO... though Kaiji doesn't have even a third of Akagi's balls.
After reading this, I decided to check the series out on a whim, despite my knowing full well that Cowboy Bebop is the only good anime ever- it's just one of those undeniable universal truths, you know? And it's still true. Anyway, I just finished watching it all, and I loved every bit of it. But it's still true.

Seeing as how you're clearly a man of fine taste, I think I'll peruse another series from this list. Probably Gurren Lagann. It's still true, though.

[Rad]

you should watch FLCL as soon as you can. top priority

[Poisonedv]

http://img801.mytextgraphics.com/photolava/2008/08/18/lupinlive-4bkcvfv8c.jpeg

AHAHAHAHAH.
Ok, anyway, thought I might ask in this thread, do you guys know where I can, download, or buy lupin specials, movies, and episodes? I have all the manga in japanese and english but I only have one set of movies and 1 dvd of episodes.(also the set of movies is from funimation who fucking sucks and wont replace a goddamn dvd that doesn't work properly.)

[Demaar]

Seeing as how you're clearly a man of fine taste, I think I'll peruse another series from this list. Probably Gurren Lagann. It's still true, though.lol thanks for the complement? I must warn you that Gurren Lagann is a very different show, though. It's got robots, guns and boobs up the wazoo. Turning off your brain is a requirement.

[Poisonedv]

lol thanks for the complement? I must warn you that Gurren Lagann is a very different show, though. It's got robots, guns and boobs up the wazoo. Turning off your brain is a requirement.

It's like the Die Hard of anime

[Rad]

Considering what I've seen of Gurren Lagann (everythings except an actual episode) it looks like a bad ripoff of FLCL. Giatn robots fighting other robots, a teenage boy in love with a wierd woman. I don't know much else but there's probably other similarities.

[Zeuter]

Considering what I've seen of Gurren Lagann (everythings except an actual episode) it looks like a bad ripoff of FLCL. Giatn robots fighting other robots, a teenage boy in love with a wierd woman. I don't know much else but there's probably other similarities.

Didn't you just describe all anime, though?

[Demaar]

Yeah, that's pretty much a good description of all mecha anime that's ever existed. Except Gundam, it's about giant robots fighting other giant robots and teenage boys in love with other teenage boys.


Edit: Completely forgot to mention that if you loved Kaiji, check out Akagi. Same manga author as far as I'm aware, similar themes. But Akagi is confident in the stuff he does even if it's crazy ridiculous and it has a whole different vibe. Also it's about Mahjong rather than games that are much easier to explain. I still enjoyed it despite not knowing anything about Mahjong though.

[etnlIcarus]

Almost at the end of Claymore and just began acquiring Samurai Champloo. Still irks me that SBS stopped broadcast of that series half way through.

[nkbswe5]

I like Excel Saga. It involves endless shouting and parodies I don't understand because I don't know enough about Japanese culture.

[Demaar]

Hope they release a season 2 to Claymore soon. I tried to find the manga so I could continue, but yer, no go.

Saw Excel Saga ages ago, was pretty funny. A bit overrated by some people, but I liked it. The DVDs do a good job at pointing out parodies and references you may have missed or don't get.

Red Garden is another show I liked, but haven't seen all of it. You know Gantz? It's like that but aimed more at girls I guess (as in less gratuitous violence and boobs, more story)? It's more of a horror series than an action series. The main characters are 4 girls, each from a different clique (Kate's a top student, Rachel's a prissy party girl, Rose is unremarkable beyond being good natured and shy, Claire's your typical tough girl). Character interaction is a bit of a focus, but there's enough other things going on. Been a while since I watched it, but it seemed really interesting. Hard to go into detail without early spoilers. Really gotta try to see the rest of it at some stage.

[Rad]

Oh man, I completely forgot about YuYu Hakusho. Ruroni Kenshin was good too. Toonami showed some pretty good animes back in the day

[Kaatridge]

I like Excel Saga. It involves endless shouting and parodies I don't understand because I don't know enough about Japanese culture.

Excel Saga is GREAT. I have the DVD sets now, and it comes with a little commentary thing, telling you about the parodys and jokes.

[Poisonedv]

Excel saga is pretty good, but its pretty generic

[etnlIcarus]

Just watched the last two eps of Claymore. A mighty mess. Predictable as hell; ADD direction and a serious lack of plot development.

There's also the little issue that the series reaches very limited conclusions and there are no plans to continue the anime. Although from the sounds of it, it appears the manga has been going for far longer and has similarly stalled.

Oh well. Enjoy it for what it was, I suppose.

[raezr]

Considering what I've seen of Gurren Lagann (everythings except an actual episode) it looks like a bad ripoff of FLCL. Giatn robots fighting other robots, a teenage boy in love with a wierd woman. I don't know much else but there's probably other similarities.
Considering that a large part of Gurren Lagann is a tongue-in-cheek satire of the mecha genre then of course there are going to be similarities. It's a rare example of a show that knows exactly what it's doing when it uses cliches and it uses them for good reasons. Also, Gurren Lagann is really good and I highly recommend it.

If any of you guys want some artsy anime Kaiba is a show that just recently finished airing and it's fantastic on all sorts of levels. It defied all expectations for me and I can't get enough of how awesome it was.

[Demaar]

Glad to hear Kaiba is rad. I've got the show sitting there, but I haven't started watching it yet. In fact I have a stack of things I need to watch still, blarg... wish there were more hours in a day :P

[raezr]

If you end up liking Kaiba you'll probably want to check out the rest of stuff made by Masaaki Yuasa, its creator. The most notable would be Kemonozume and the movie Mind Game.

[Scythemantis]

Popular things I've enjoyed include Soul Eater, Excel Saga, Gurren Laggen (or whatever) and DIGIMON GOD DAMN ADVENTURE.

A more obscure thing I'm a fan of is the world of Kitarou. Nobody I've ever spoken to about anime has ever heard of it, but it's considered one of Japan's most famous and beloved cultural treasures, with its own theme park, shrines and dozens of properties still going strong since 1959.

http://nagoya.cool.ne.jp/calbee1982/img/gba/1327c.jpg

Kitarou himself is a "goblin boy" who works as a hero-for-hire settling disputes between the world of humans and the world of youkai (the wacky spirits and demons of traditional eastern folklore). Accompanying him in his adventures is the mobile, talking eyeball of his long-dead father, who rides in his son's empty left eye socket. Adorably, Kitarou was born out of his mother's grave.

http://www.sakaiminato.net/site2/page/foreign/eng/kitaro/body04.jpg

Perhaps more impressive than the franchise itself is its creator, Mizuki Shigeru. He wanted to be an artist his entire life, but was forced to fight in WWII where he barely survived malaria, lost most of his drawing arm to a bombing and the rest to a maggot infestation while he struggled to survive in the wilderness. After the war, he taught himself to draw again with his other hand and channeled the horrors he had witnessed into the creation of a cartoon hero. And he still praises America as liberators, Hiroshima and all. He could drop Chuck Norris with one arm tied behind his back. The one he still has.


FUN FACT (for me) - the first English google result for "kitarou" is none other than my own webpage on the GBA game. (http://www.bogleech.com/gba-kitarou.html) Go me! It's rather old, but it features a story guide and sprites of the 60+ enemy types.

[Demaar]

Only thing I've been watching lately is Gundam 00. I'm a bad animu fan :(

[Flounderman]

Does anyone else think that girl from Ergo Proxy and Amy Lee are the same person?

[Farvana]

Never watched Ergo Proxy.

Been watching Kannagi, though, which is surprisingly good for a teenage romantic comedy kind of show. It's a weird japanese take on that old greek myth Pygmalion.

[Demaar]

I've heard that comparison. There's a passing similarity, but I don't think it's much beyond that. Then again, anime design is pretty far from emulating reality so I guess that could be the closest you could get to looking like Amy Lee in an anime setting. I dunno.

[rhystuck]

Haven't seen Ergo Proxy but I have a boner for Amy Lee so maybe I will check it out!

[Flounderman]

There's a passing similarity, but I don't think it's much beyond that.

http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/jpg/amylee.jpg

[Farvana]

Oh god, no wonder I repressed that name. I can not stand Evanescence. I do not want to watch that face on my screen thank you.

[Gina]

I think somehow every teenage girl knows the words to Evanescence songs despite rarely hearing them, ever.
I know I do.

To relate it vaguely to video games; my friends and I can do those songs blindfolded on Singstar. I know because we tried.

Also; anime. Is anyone else terrified a Twilight-based anime is going to pop up in the future? I am. It might be one of the signs of the oncoming apocolypse.

[rhystuck]

Ah you folks should see an Evanescence concert, you've never seen so many try hard emos and goths in one place. Goth girls can be really cute and sexy, but not when they weigh over 300 pounds and are still trying to fit into a corset.

Ah yes, Twilight anime. That's just what the world needs. MORE vampire-based anime.

[Demaar]

http://www.b3ta.cr3ation.co.uk/data/jpg/amylee.jpgNever seen that pic of what's her face before, now I totally see the similarities lol
Then again, I kind of actively ignored Evanescence so I assert that I still have an excuse :P

Also; anime. Is anyone else terrified a Twilight-based anime is going to pop up in the future? I am. It might be one of the signs of the oncoming apocolypse.Are you shitting me? Ugh. Why, why, why? They tend to do original properties better. I guess this is why I haven't watched any new shows in ages.

[Farvana]

Goth girls can be really cute and sexy, but not when they weigh over 300 pounds and are still trying to fit into a corset.

Ah yes, Twilight anime. That's just what the world needs. MORE vampire-based anime.

Oh god, I wish the ones I saw had been trying to fit into a corset, instead of fishnet stockings/shirts. Two words: bubble wrap.


I got bored with vampires 8 years ago, and that boredom's turned to distaste to outright hate in every case except for Hellsing (because vampire Nazis eating babies).

[shMerker]

Has anyone ever seen War In The Pocket? It's a Gundam mini-series that I saw becuase it was one of the handful of animes my local library had when I first got interested in manga and anime. It's not typical mecha fare, as much of the story focuses on a civilian kid instead of the usual lineup of hot-shot pilots. It's a pretty straightforward anti-war parable, but something about it really stuck with me.

[Flounderman]

My favorites now are 8th MS Team and G Gundam. 8th MS Team is very different from the other Gundams, much more realistic (the gundams are treated more like actual military vehicles, they get sand stuck in the joints and whatnot) and instead of one ace pilot fighting 50 other people it's a small team fighting other teams, although they DO fight an ace pilot at one point, they get their asses kicked.

And as for G Gundam, it's just amazing. It's Gundam meets Kung Fu movie. THIS HAND OF MINE GLOWS WITH AN AWESOME POWER.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

Death Note is my favourite anime. It had awesome music, interesting story and concept, and it was suspenseful. Also they made two live action movies of it.

[Demaar]

Death Note was pretty rad. I think it got a bit stupid after the thing with L about half way through though. The traps set by Kira and the guys trying to catch him just became more and more ridiculous.

[Flounderman]

I didn't bother reading anything after L dies. The series could of ended there and of been perfect. I might read the next few volumes but I can't imagine it getting any better.

[Demaar]

The stuff about the boardroom of guys abusing the note was probably the height of the series. After that arc ended I lost all interest for a year or so. I went back and finished it up, wasn't overly impressed.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

Well those Yostuba guys were meant to be part of Light's whole plan. I thought the final episode was good, if only for the part where Lights dies. I thought the music was perfect, as was L's standing over Light.

The two movies never went into the Mello and Near arc, but the end result was pretty much the same. Except I didn't know you could use the notebook the way L did in the movie.


I didn't bother reading anything after L dies.
The series could of ended there and of been perfect. I might read the next few volumes but I can't imagine it getting any better.


That depends on whether you believe in Kira or not. I enjoyed the suspense of wondering how it would end afterwards, but it's all about who you'd rather see win than knowing the rest of the story.

[Demaar]

I thought Kira was a monster, but I also think they could have ended the series well after the Yotsuba arc.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

That's true, but then you'd have to wonder about Light's plan, and all the unanswered questions, like "Light would have had to touch the note at some point!"

[shMerker]

That's true, but then you'd have to wonder about Light's plan, and all the unanswered questions, like "Light would have had to touch the note at some point!"

That is when he touches it. The results are actually pretty obvious.

It's the 10 episodes afterward that people lose interest over. I can't blame them. The whole dynamic of the show changes after that. It seems like they could've had a much quicker denouement.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

It also could've been much more interesting, but instead, the people making it decided Mello didn't exist until ep. 35. Had it been the 3-on-3 battle they were acting like it was, then it would've been much more interesting.

[Flounderman]

From the bit of the second half I read in the last volume I had, it seemed Mello and Near were just L clones.

[Demaar]

Except neither was as good as L on their own.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

Actually, Mello was only like L with chocolate. Near was the most L-ish.

[shMerker]

They both had something that L lacked though. Neither of them wanted to be friends with Light Yagami. The real heroes of the series are Matsuda and Chief Yagami. They were the ones who put aside friendships and family bonds to do the right thing. All the super detectives were just savants who happened to be helping the good guys.

Edit: Oh, and Watari, just by virtue of answering the question "what would you do with a billion dollars?" with "Start an orphanage that raises autistic super-detectives and become a sharpshooter."

[Demaar]

Yeah, everyone from the original Kira unit or whatever it was called were the REAL likeable characters the whole way through. Near and Mellow were definitely not the new protagonists, more like tools to resolve the story.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

I liked Mello, but Aizawa and Matsuda definitely were the best people in the whole series. Matsuda especially. Matsuda had is own story of almost religiously following Light, And when he found out Light was Kira, then he went insane with anger and shot Light up.

Also Watari has a funny british accent. So that's good too. But we could probably all agree that the most irrelevant character's were everyone in the SPK who wasn't Near. Lidner was just there to go "I'm a woman, whee." Gevanni was there to go "I'm arrogant, whee." And Rester... he didn't do anything, did he?

[shMerker]

God, I had completely forgotten about the SPK. Meanwhile I thought Ray Penber and...his fiance who's name escapes me were much more interesting than any of the over the top globetrotters that the series seemed to focus on. Actually, now that I think about it all my favorite characters are the relatively average people who get caught up in the extraordinary circumstances of the Kira case. This might explain why I am so hooked on Bakuman, the manga from the same author and artist as Deathnote that actually does focus on ordinary people.

Except for Niizuma. That kid is messed up. And kind of an L clone.

[Demaar]

Oh God, the scene with Ray's fiance, when she realises who Kira is? That was SO much better in the anime. Just, the horror in her eyes. SO good. I preferred reading the manga right up to that point.

[shMerker]

Yeah. There was also something genuinely terrifying about the way that the deathnote can make someone do something they absolutely do not want to do.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

The horror and then the Death Note taking effect. It was like a crescendo of "Oh shit."
Anyway, I like how the movies show society more, and what the world's like with Kira in it.

[Demaar]

Yeah, that's one thing that pissed me off about season 2 of Dexter. I wanted to see more of how society reacted to the Bay Harbour Butcher murders and how all of the victims were criminals. They completely wasted a perfect opportunity to vaguely ape Death Note and improve upon it.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

Have you seen the trailer for the movies? If not, then here:
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=apaWHzttRJ8
http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=HIn03_MWRFY&feature=related

[Unspoken]

Woot! Went and seen a showing of the first Death Note movie in the next town over last summer with a few of my friends. I dressed up as L. Colon three. The movie wasn't half bad, but the English voices ruin it for me.


DeathNote's good, Elfen Lied's wonderful, Evangelion was amazing/confusing, Ghost in the Shells 1 and 2 were excellence, Full Metal Alchemist was tight, Full Metal Panic (Original, TSR, Fumoffu!) are all great, and Escaflowne is unforgettably epic.

Saiyuki was loads better as manga, as was Naruto/Bleach. Never got to watch D.N.Angel, but I loved the books. Some other good manga series I liked were Hot Gimmick, KamiKaze, FLCL (I FUCKING KILLED HIM!!!), Disgaea 1 and 2, Gakuen Heaven, and Jack Frost.


Oh, and there was one show about a high school girl who pretends to be another person in school, and a guy finds out and blackmails her (spacing on the name). I watched it with my ex-boyfriend, but it was pretty good. Very touching.

[shMerker]

I just remember that this exists. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2avdf289OY)

[Demaar]

I was given Vampire Hunter D Blood Lust to watch. I still haven't watched it, really need to get around to doing that.

[liam3000]

the galaxy angels series and azumanga daioh are just amazing... uah! I want curry udon ><

[Flounderman]

Death Panda is the greatest manga ever

[liam3000]

god, I couldnt watch the final dvd of azumanga daioh for months... I just couldnt bear for it to be over

[shMerker]

I really liked the Azumanga Daioh manga. Kiyohiko Azuma's Yostuba&! is also a lot of fun.

[Unspoken]

Oh, other good series is xxxHOLiC. Have every episode (both regular and Kei seasons), and it's one of my favorite Clamp works.

Those who don't know about xxxHOLiC (pronounced simply "Holic"), it's a series set parallel to Tsubasa Reservoir Chronicles (another great Clamp work), so there are some moments that cross between the two stories. But instead of traveling to other worlds, it's just set in the world of the Witch of Space and Time (for you Tsubasa fans) and follows the adventures of her "slave" Watanuki. Lots of superstition and supernatural events are the name of the game, and it's executed very well.

One of a few series that had me crying at the end of both seasons.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

I just remember that this exists. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2avdf289OY)

I remember that. It was hilarious.

Also, Death Note movie with english voices? I didn't know anyone would ever do that. Also, D.N.Angel is awesome.

[Unspoken]

I remember that. It was hilarious.

Also, Death Note movie with english voices? I didn't know anyone would ever do that. Also, D.N.Angel is awesome.

Yeah, the American company for Death Note in charge of voice acting (I want to say Viz?) had the same voice actors dub the movie. But there are just some moments that made me want to shoot myself during the film. And by some, I mean all.

Story itself isn't bad at all. The writing team took the liberty of changing some things up for some awesome "OH SHI-" moments.

For those who have seen the movie...
Ending had me pointing at the screen going, "Did you see that?!" I knew as soon as that ex-FBI agent put the gun to her head, Light had the whole thing under his control. Then the evil that followed made my skin crawl.

I can't wait for the next one to be shown in our theater. Then when the third makes its way over here, I'll be there as well.


By the way, why the hell was Red Hot Chili Peppers the main theme for the fucking movie?! REE-fucking-DICK-YOU-LUSS!

[Unbelievably Turtle]

That was like that in Japan as well.

[Unspoken]

I know. I mean, why the hell is RHCP such a worldwide phenomenon that people feel it necessary to put an upbeat song as the theme to a dark-toned movie?

Who seriously thought it was a good idea in the first place? I want to kick that guy/girl in the balls/box respectively.

Not only was it the theme, but it was also one of THE MAIN ATTRACTIONS THAT THE MOVIE LISTED!

You know how many times we saw things like, "A Live-Action Interpretation of the Popular Manga Series", "Accompanied by the English Voice Actors", and "Featuring a NEW SONG from the RED HOT CHILI PEPPERS!!! OMGGG!!!1!!!!1djkzzadfjlksdjfa;1!"?

I wanted to kill myself as soon as I heard the opening line.

[Farvana]

Also, D.N.Angel is awesome.

If we're thinking of the same show I have to disagree. Fuck you, it's trash.

[Unspoken]

If we're thinking of the same show I have to disagree. Fuck you, it's trash.

The one with Daisuke? And With/Wiz/whatever he's called depending on the translation?

Or are you talking of D.Grey Man (which I've never seen but confuse a lot with D.N.Angel)?

[Demaar]

Azumanga Daioh is pretty great, though a bit overly random at times. xxxHolic is pretty rad too, need to watch the second season at some stage.


I haven't really been watching anything at all lately though. Just been distracted.

[Farvana]

The one with Daisuke? And With/Wiz/whatever he's called depending on the translation?

Or are you talking of D.Grey Man (which I've never seen but confuse a lot with D.N.Angel)?

Not D Gray Man, as I know I've never seen that show. A friend was way into it, and got me to watch three episodes of it. I can't even remember details, all I remember was that it was awful.

[liam3000]

Azumanga Daioh is pretty great, though a bit overly random at times. xxxHolic is pretty rad too, need to watch the second season at some stage.


I haven't really been watching anything at all lately though. Just been distracted.

ridiculously random but in my view a little worse is the 'galaxy angel' series
and for stuff that doesnt make sense on any level but is still beautiful is 'cromartie high'

[Flounderman]

ridiculously random but in my view a little worse is the 'galaxy angel' series
and for stuff that doesnt make sense on any level but is still beautiful is 'cromartie high'

Cromartie High has Freddie Mercury as a recurring character, that alone is enough to warrant watching it.

[Unspoken]

Watched the xxxHOLiC movie last night.

It wasn't bad, but it wasn't great, either. Just felt like they tacked two episodes together. And then said, "Hey, let's make this revolutionary by tacking in contact between the xxxHOLiC world and the Tsubasa world and call it a 'parallel movie experience'! YEAH!"

Then they kill a Pikachu.

But still, I liked it. A lot of different art styles appear, and the story is quite cute and interesting. It also explains vaguely how the series got its name.

By the way, if you watch this series in English, then there's something wrong with you. Watanuki's voice is only half as annoying in the Japanese dubbing, and it can be funny at some points. I may give the movie a try in English just for shits and giggles, but I think the only good voice I've heard so far was Yuko's.

[Pikul]

Neon Genesis Evangelion, FLCL, Digimon, Pokemon Azumanga Daioh, Chobits, PaniPoni Dash, sometimes Full Metal Alchemist, and uhm, I dunno, I'm not too thrilled with anime. Honestly the only one that could deem as my favorite show from this is Fooly Cooly or NGA. Also mentioning that I have seen episodes from Naruto, Death Note, Dragon Ball/Z, Sailor Moon, One Piece, and Bleach. All which were pretty fucking awful to me.

Although! I do love me some anime movies. Paprika was too good or really anything by Hayao Miyazaki.

[Demaar]

That's a lot more anime than your average person will consume. I'd say you're vaguely thrilled with anime.

[Pikul]

I kinda just watched them. I don't have like some big boner for them nor do I fap to some hawt azn curtoonz, but its good for a brain jog.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

The fact the you didn't like Neon Genesis Evangelion confuses me. I thought it was brilliant.

[chuanoplast]

Cat Themenime
Nekojiru Gekijou is disgusting, cruel, and vile, but oh so funny. There are cats in it too!
Cat Soup is based on the works of Nekojiru (who is the creator of the previous anime) and is a delight to watch (beautiful imagery).
Chii's Sweet Life (or something like that) is too cute for words and I cannot stop watching this show about a kitten. It's just like Garfield (ugh no it's not)!

Non Cat Themenime and more Crazynime
Animerama (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animerama) films are best described by watching them. It's like the seventies anime-style! None of the films are "adult" in the sense of explicit sex scenes, but there are a lot of boobies and some weird sexual imagery, so watch with caution! Prettiest: Belladonna. Weirdest: Cleopatra (I have no idea what is happening)

[liam3000]

man I feel terrible for watching stuff like azumanga daioh just because I know it's so closely connected with denpa kei and stuff like mosaic.wav... ugh

[Demaar]

Eva was enjoyable but dear lord is it overrated. I bite my tongue whenever people I know praise it excessively though.

[Unspoken]

Eva was enjoyable but dear lord is it overrated. I bite my tongue whenever people I know praise it excessively though.

Agreed. Though it was very good, way too many people are still squealing in fanboy/girlism delight for it. Yeah, it was different, and yeah, the characters were actually human and decent, but it's not the greatest thing ever made. Period.

On another note, anyone watch Noein? Recommend it if you've got a Netflix account and a 360 for Instant Queue. 24 episodes of parallel universes, quantum physics, time rifts, and awesome fight scenes.

As far as other ones I have queued to watch, Read or Die, Desert Punk, Last Exile, and Utawarerumono are awaiting streaming, among a few others.

[Farvana]

Utawarerumono
This was good until the rabbit people flip the fuck out and pull out giant robots. Completely ruined the show for me.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

Heard of Noein, but didn't watch it. I guess I should.

[Farvana]

The art style of Noein drove me up the wall. After seeing a few of the character designs I gave up on that one.

[Demaar]

On another note, anyone watch Noein? Recommend it if you've got a Netflix account and a 360 for Instant Queue. 24 episodes of parallel universes, quantum physics, time rifts, and awesome fight scenes.

As far as other ones I have queued to watch, Read or Die, Desert Punk, Last Exile, and Utawarerumono are awaiting streaming, among a few others.I have the first 5 or whatever episodes of Noein. I caught a bit on ABC2 (I think?) one time and it looked pretty damn nifty. Yet to actually watch. May bump it up the list.

I enjoyed Last Exile 'cause steam punk.

[Flounderman]

So uh... how 'bout that Rozen Maiden. A damn good sountrack, creative character designs, characters you are genuinely interested in, and a good fight every once in a while. And it's almost as if it was intentionally directed at hikikomori failures in japan, inspiring them to get out of the house and live their lives.

here's an example of the soundtrack

Shukuteki (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-L4vsF-22Q&feature=related)

Kowareta Sekai (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOQx6katyCE)

[Farvana]

Watched that because half the people I talked with online suddenly got a doll-joint fetish.

It's... mediocre. Mediocre story, mediocre fights, mediocre art and animation, mediocre character designs. People go fucking nuts over Rozen Maiden and I don't know why.

[T Strife]

Eva was enjoyable but dear lord is it overrated. I bite my tongue whenever people I know praise it excessively though.

Honestly, Evangelion is one of the finest pieces of animation ever produced - it's a genuine masterpiece of storytelling and technique. The problem is that it also showed tremendous aptitude at providing a shallow hook to complex content, and as such it has developed a legion of fans that really don't understand the show's merits, but nonetheless get to feel like they're clever for understanding whatever bit of content piecemeal they've last been chewing over.

To this day I have not seen an animated TV series (possibly even a live one) that is at once so literate and willfully experimental with film form. A lot of anime have jumped on the popularity of the angst and psychology bandwagon, but for the most part they've been no-where near as good at executing their ideas.

Eva's not over-rated; it's rated by over-zealous morons.

[Flounderman]

Watched that because half the people I talked with online suddenly got a doll-joint fetish.

It's... mediocre. Mediocre story, mediocre fights, mediocre art and animation, mediocre character designs. People go fucking nuts over Rozen Maiden and I don't know why.

>:[

[Demaar]

half the people I talked with online suddenly got a doll-joint fetish..The first thing that pops into my mind whenever I see the title is "DELICIOUS DOLL JOINTS". Hooray for the internet!Eva's not over-rated; it's rated by over-zealous morons.Heh, that's an interesting way to look at it. Personally I enjoyed Eva a lot. I watched the whole series a couple of times, and I may go back to watch it again. I'm not criticising it, I'm criticising the over-zealous morons you mention :)

[Ham Denture]

Trigun, anyone? A bit cliched, but thouroughly enjoyable. Cromartie High School has a few tasty episodes, but the whole "Freddie Mercury and a gorilla go to our school" schtick tires quickly and starts to grate.
But, yes, Trigun fo' sho'.

[Farvana]

Eva's not over-rated; it's rated by over-zealous morons.

Hey, that perfectly describes the Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya. I refused to watch the show for almost a year because the fans were so irritatingly praising it.

[Demaar]

I liked Haruhi as well, but it was even more overrated by its fans than Eva.

Trigun is a fun, silly, show.

[Flounderman]

I should bother to give haruhi a chance, but the random order of the episodes kinda turns me off. Maybe I'll read the light novels some day.

[shMerker]

If you get the American DVDs the episodes are mostly in chronological order. The only one out of place is the terrible film they make late in the series which is put at the beginning.

I had a lot of fun watching them in their airing order. It adds a layer of mystery to some of the episodes that happen later.

[Demaar]

I watched the series purely in chronological order. I think it would have pissed me off otherwise.

[shMerker]

I can't help the feeling that it would be sort of anticlimactic to see it in chronological order. The second half of the series doesn't really have an overarching plot. Anyway the whole series is pretty freaking hilarious and definitely worth seeing.

[Farvana]

I think the aim of the out-of-order episodes was to cram four of the novels into one series and still have the emotional payoff come at the end.

I still maintain that Kyon is actually the god, as Haruhi is too much of a perfect thing for him.

[PsychoWardJester]

Hoo boy lets see here...animes/mangas I've enjoyed: Haruhi, Lucky Star, Azumanga Daioh, Yotsuba, PaniPoni Dash, Love Hina, and Ken Akamatsu's latest work: Mahou Sensei Negima!

I do love Akamatsu's stuff, despite the frequent fanservices the comics are quite enjoyable...

I highly reccomend reading Negima because the anime has a piss poor ending...though the 2nd series (its a remake more than a 2nd season) is definately worth looking at...music ain't bad either!

[Kaatridge]

I still maintain that Kyon is actually the god, as Haruhi is too much of a perfect thing for him.

Now that I actually think about it, that would actually work out a lot better if they did that.

[Demaar]

That's what I walked away from the series thinking too. That Kyon thing I mean.

[shMerker]

I hadn't really thought of it quite like that, but I thought it was amusing that she supposedly had all this power but Kyon was the one who knew enough to actually get control over a situation. Haruhi believes that if you surround yourself with the right kind of people that they magically form into some kind of paranormal investigation squad whereas Kyon actually tries to understand the people around him and helps negotiate a working relationship between three factions that are somewhat at odds with each other. He's the one that ends up living the dream, so to speak. And naturally he hates every minute of it because living that dream will put you in mortal danger on a regular basis.

[Unbelievably Turtle]

Having never watches Haruhi Suzumiya, that paragraph confuses and excites me simultaneously.

[PsychoWardJester]

You definitely should...though I reccomend looking up the episode guide for your first time around...

Oh, hey...season 2 should be coming soon as well...

[Flounderman]

.season 2 should be coming soon

AHAHAHAHAHAHA. HAHAHAHAHA. HAH. HAHAHA. HAH

Hahhaha, hah, oh man that's rich.

[PsychoWardJester]

Was that uproarious laughter at the notion of a season 2 or it coming soon? I have seen proof of the former but I'm probably being optimistic about the latter...

[T Strife]

Soooo.... Last Exile (http://www.lastexiledvd.com/).

I'm watching this one for the second time through (the last being early 2006), and I'm having the same troubles with it. Every perspective from which I can judge it shows up assurance and quality: its world is lovingly created, it's paced well enough and the visual direction is just sublime. But I'm not really getting along with it. I mean, I enjoy it whenever I watch an episode, but I hardly feel compelled to bother in the first place; I've been re-watching it since late last year, and I've only just gotten past episode 20.

Sure, some the the characterisation is predictable, and the cast isn't entirely new either, but I've fallen in love with confident cliches before. The story isn't quite as accomplished as the world it takes place in, either, but I'd rather a rich world than an elaborate narrative.

There really is little point to this post. It's a typical case of having something to say, but weing unsure as to why I want to say it.

[shMerker]

Having never watches Haruhi Suzumiya, that paragraph confuses and excites me simultaneously.

It's definitely worth seeing and it's pretty easy to find it on DVD now. It takes a very self-aware approach to a lot of genre cliches with a slightly existential edge. It's like Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are Dead for Anime (incidentally that's the play that Koizumi is in at the cultural festival in episode 12).

Has anybody seen Metropolis (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0293416/)? So there was a film in 1927 directed by Fritz Lang called Metropolis (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0017136/). It's sort of a dystopian sci-fi -Frankenstein story. In 1947 Osamu Tezuka wrote a graphic novel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metropolis_(manga)) by the same name that played up the science fiction elements and combined the tower of Babel myth with the Frankenstein story. The film I'm talking about though is an animated adaptation released in 2001 that's much more cyber-punk(they didn't really have cyber-punk in the 40s), builds on the political intrigue, and portrays it all as kind of a noir detective story. I can't think of any other film that I've seen that was quite like it. It's visually really exciting and just completely drew me into it's strange world.

[Flounderman]

Man nobody knows what Metropolis is most of the time. I love that film, I should go rent it and see it again.

[Kaatridge]

Man nobody knows what Metropolis is most of the time. I love that film, I should go rent it and see it again.

I remember Metropolis! That ending made me bawl my eyes out.

[shMerker]

Man nobody knows what Metropolis is most of the time. I love that film, I should go rent it and see it again.

It's one of my 3 favorite animated films, along with Princess Mononoke and The Incredibles.

[Flounderman]

I remember Metropolis! That ending made me bawl my eyes out.

I hear in the japanese version they show the girl being rebuilt in their shop at the end of the credits. They took that out for our version, not sure why.

[shMerker]

Yeah. I don't know what the deal there was either. Although I notice the wikipedia article treats the image you're talking about as being pretty open to interpretation anyway.

Hmm. I hadn't given much thought to Kenichi's motivations for staying in Metropolis before. What's the difference between his wanting to rebuild Tima and Duke Red's wanting to recreate his daughter?

[Kaatridge]

I hear in the japanese version they show the girl being rebuilt in their shop at the end of the credits. They took that out for our version, not sure why.

Wow. That actually makes me feel a lot better about it.


I guess they want us to suffer from depression or something.

[I-ray]

I clearly recall disliking Metropolis, but I don't really remember why. I'm pretty sure Osamu Tezuka thought of the original manga as some of his crappiest work ever though, and wouldn't have agreed on an animated adaptation if he were still alive.

I just finished watching Sword of the Stranger, which was a surprisingly fun movie. It was nothing groundbreaking (there were more popular anime tropes than you can shake a stick at) and it certainly had its flaws (I thought the characters could've been fleshed out a bit more - chances are it would've worked better as an OVA series), but despite all that it was still pretty good. Likable characters with motivations that actually make sense (given the time period), good animation and a story that's straight to the point with no real pretense.

It honestly surprised the hell out of me since they had so many ways they could have screwed everything up by the end and ruin the entire movie, and yet they managed to avoid every single one. I really think it deserved more credit and media exposure outside of Japan.

[Demaar]

If I recall rightly I saw the original Metropolis as a kid. Creeped the fuck out of me.

[I-ray]

I'm about 17 years late with this, but I just started watching Giant Robo and it's really impressive.

The title might be enough to scare some people away, but it's really not what you'd expect from this kind of show.

[antikhaoz]

[Mod note: This post was merged in from another thread]

This scene from Gurren Lagann, is probably my favorite scene in any anime ever, and re watching it made me wonder how did Eegra felt about anime.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ6DlJPe9bk

For one, i stopped enjoying anime some time ago. The last show I watched was Death Note, and it was brilliant to say the least. I have tried to watch other shows but i just lost interest, and unless they depict giant robots kicking each others asses I can´t seem to care. Naruto is very popular but it's so..how do you call it ? generic ?, as Bleach and other "popular" stuff. Currently I only watch the Hellsing ovas, which come out once every year, approximately .

SO KAWAIII DESUU NEE, JIJIJI

[T Strife]

[[I]Naruto is very popular but it's so..how do you call it ? generic ?

I think the word you're looking for is crap.

But then, most popular 50+ episode anime is no more than low budget, formulatic garbage :/

[Flounderman]

So now I'm being forced to read History's Greatest Disciple Kenichi. It's actually better than I expected it to be. Although it kinda bothers me that it goes from semi-realistic fighting to ridiculous punching through walls and jumping 50 feet in the air crap at sudden points.
I think the word you're looking for is crap.

But then, most popular 50+ episode anime is no more than low budget, formulatic garbage :/
Meh, Naruto has it's moments. It's not that great, but it's certainly not single worst shonen in existence like it's disgusting fanbase seems to imply. There are other shows that are as bad as their fanbase *cough*Inuyasha*cough*

gurren lagann

Fuck I still need to watch that. My friend just gave me all the episodes in hi-def and I still haven't bothered to watch it.

[antikhaoz]

Gurren Lagann pays homage to the whole mech genre. The characters are so masculine and lovable that you will find yourself screaming like a Hooligan at each fight ( and by the way, this is the kinda of show is more enjoyable with the company of mens).

It keeps growing in dimensions and spectacularity each episode, and let me say that the final fight is the most mind blowing and spectacular mech fight I have ever seen. They use Galaxies as shurikens, for God saking.

I haven't seen anime since, well, Death Note, I guess it's time to watch some new show.

[Neen]

The only animes I could ever get into were the usual suspects: Fullmetal Alchemist, Bebop, FLCL, and very few others.

When Bleach first aired, I thought it had potential. Then it turned into a fifty-episodes of training with no real plot development, with fight scenes that are comprised mostly out of unnecessary exposition and preachy dialouge. Just like 90% of anime.

I hear that Gurren Lagann is made my the FLCL folks, but I never got around to watch it.

As for "serious" anime that greasy folk always insist that is "too good for American audiences," it's all just as shitty. Watching a pretty, big-eyed school girl ponder quietly isn't deep -- it's fucking boring.

[shMerker]

I thought big-eyed girls were usually either vulnerable action heros or jerking-off material or some combination of the two. What are these shows you speak of where they just sit around thinking about stuff?

[Flounderman]

I thought big-eyed girls were usually either vulnerable action heros or jerking-off material or some combination of the two. What are these shows you speak of where they just sit around thinking about stuff?

Lucky Star. Which side of the chocolate cornet is the head? It's riddles like these that keep philosophers up at night.

[shMerker]

Wait, people are snooty about Lucky Star? Lucky Star qualifies for someone's definition of serious? My mind has been blown. I thought people just thought that it was cute or funny or something.

Also, I lost interest in that show in the middle of the first episode, but I thought the joke was that the characters invest too much time and energy in thinking about mundane things. Kind of a cute, girly version of Seinfeld. Maybe this is like Beavis and Butthead though where the audience doesn't realize that they're being made fun of.

Edit: I guess you're answering my post out of context. I'm pretty sure Neen wasn't talking about Lucky Star. Color me confused if he was. Either way my comment about big-eyed girls was somewhat facetious. I'm aware that there are exceptions that test the rule.

[Neen]

I don't know the name of the show, Shmerker. Just watch whatever the hell they show on the IFC, and you'll understand.

Big-eyed was more of a shot at anime in general, though -- I've yet to see on that showcased them actual-sized.

[Ensenada]

I don't have the patience to watch subbed animoos or the pain tolerance to watch dubbed animoos, so I generally stick to...mangoos? Screw it, I'll use actual words now.

The only one I like enough to actually stick with is Jojo's Bizarre Adventure. Tired memes aside, it's pretty great. It's the thinking man's shonen. Over the course of the series the protagonists go from using fairly clever tactics to advanced physics and cryptozoology. And then they scrap all that, and suddenly, cowboy universe. And vampire Jack the Ripper. With laser eyes.

In terms of "serious" stuff, Bokurano gets points for making me care about what happens to middle schoolers. I heard the anime basically scraps the well developed characters and mature plotlines in favor of "LOOK GUYZ GIANT ROBOTS", though.

[Flounderman]

Manga is pretty much all I do nowadays, I haven't went through an entire anime series front to back since Rozen Maiden, which was over a year ago.

Also, I lost interest in that show in the middle of the first episode, but I thought the joke was that the characters invest too much time and energy in thinking about mundane things. Kind of a cute, girly version of Seinfeld. Maybe this is like Beavis and Butthead though where the audience doesn't realize that they're being made fun of.

Lucky Star's selling point is otaku pandering. Konata loves video games, anime, browsing 2chan, and she's a loli of legal age. She's every ronery anime hermit's dream girl. Every episode of a stew of japanese nerd culture references and some people just eat that shit right up. Behind all that it's just another "slice of life" comedy. I'm not a fan of it but if other people like it, then that's just fine and I won't try to stop them.

[Majkiboy]

I tried to watch Lucky Star.. I managed to watch for about 10 minutes, then I realized what it was all about.
NOTHING!
I got so frustrated with the animations and drawings... so utterly crappy. I can't even describe how bad it is... But I'll try...

I CAN DRAW BETTER IN FRICKIN PAINT :|
And I can't draw!

Other than that I'm actually gonne watch Dragonball Evolution (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1098327/) with a couple of friends today. Not animated, but still kinda aimed towards the same audience.
I have extremely low expectations :D

[Flounderman]

I swear to god ten minutes into that movie I'm going to jump up on my seat, and throw a flaming trash can lid at the screen screaming "DESTRUCTOOO DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIISK"